tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post4475899078375099599..comments2024-03-14T12:06:17.129-07:00Comments on Spirit Communion: Recent Materialization Séances in Los AngelesDavid H. Howardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08103428561618712158noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post-89557118384189992272013-09-03T17:32:05.806-07:002013-09-03T17:32:05.806-07:00Having seen unusual phenomena on infrared video th...Having seen unusual phenomena on infrared video that neither myself (an EE) nor several other engineers/physicists (including a video camera optics specialist) could explain, I think it would be highly evidential to record similar video of materialization. Passive infrared video or thermal imaging devices should not interfere with materialization. The emf/rf emissions from such equipment should be stronger than the electromagnetic/radio signals around us nearly everywhere we go (except inside a grounded metal box).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post-22026472628260756662013-06-27T17:43:14.860-07:002013-06-27T17:43:14.860-07:00Sometimes, materializations of spirits do not requ...Sometimes, materializations of spirits do not require the use of mediums or dark/red light. Dr. Raymond Moody and Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross both describe the materialization of a deceased person who visited them IN THEIR OFFICE, DURING THE DAY, in regular office light. The materializations were as fully humans as any human being would be if he or she had visited Moody or Ross in their office. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11417164057518919359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post-25081031813222679572013-06-11T14:45:11.438-07:002013-06-11T14:45:11.438-07:00Yes, I confirm that Leslie Flint gave me a most ev...Yes, I confirm that Leslie Flint gave me a most evidential message at the David Thompson seance on February 11th, 2012. David is totally authentic and deserves the respect of the investigator.Brian Edward Hursthttp://www.brianhurst.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post-23105553849973943512013-01-22T14:39:09.201-08:002013-01-22T14:39:09.201-08:00Genuine materializations have taken place in stron...Genuine materializations have taken place in strong red light for ages. Writing that "Materializations<br />can only take place in complete darkness" is sheer rubbish and you know it! I attended several good materialization seances in the 1960s with Warren Smith as medium in a Spiritualist Church in Norfolk, Virginia, in one seance Carl Jung came and materialized, I could see his face clearly in strong red light. He told me he was one of my guides. I am a life-long Spiritualist, not a debunker but this guy Thompson has a long way to go to convince any thinking person that he is real. I actually saw the ectoplasm in red light form into the spirit figures so don't write rubbish about it having to take place in the dark. I have also listened to his so called direct voices and having sat with Leslie Flint and heard the real thing, his voices sound fake. This man, unlike Flint, refuses to be tested. Flint was tested many times. I have written several books on this subject. Gary Williams www.garywilliamsparanormal.com gary@garywilliamsparanormal.com Astrogaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01052543450234192796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post-57225332630045764082012-08-03T00:11:32.092-07:002012-08-03T00:11:32.092-07:00ABSOLUTE proof is impossible. There is always some...ABSOLUTE proof is impossible. There is always some loop-hole for doubt. I think it is better to go by PROBABILITY than to try to negate the POSSIBLE.(If you know what I mean.) All things are possible, but some things are somewhat unlikely. We need to WEIGH the possible occurrence(fraud) against the ability to DO it.Reversing a cardigan tied up like that is jolly "tricky" - especially in such a short space of time, and with no one NOTICING. TRY, when tied up like that, getting out of it, nipping around doing amazing things, in pitch darkness, and then flashing back, re-entering the tied-up situation, all without any sign of having done so!(Like breathing harder than usual.) Accomplice's? WHERE would they hide BEFORE AND AFTERWARDS??!! ALL without detection by MANY critically sharp-eyed people! THINK CAREFULLY. Door/s locked And windows,etc. Sitters HOLDING HANDS. Ah,WAIT! Houdini(or someone like him) SUDDENLY was rustled up(From a trapdoor under the carpet or where-ever, through a picture on the wall, AND back again at the end. ),materialized,perhaps with one or two accompllces, marvellous footwork in total darkness, WITHOUT tripping over any legs or whatever. TRICKY working trumpet,ETC. YOU try it!! ALL WITHOUT notice!!(AM I being critical enough here?) HOW could ANYONE(or group) DO IT??!! COULD Houdini(but he's dead)(COULD BE Chris Angel! Ah!! or some-one like them DO THAT?? And move with PIN-POINT accuracy in TOTAL darkness. Hard shrinking your hands down to child-size! Demonstrating AMAZING strength. ETC. Rather unlikely wouldn't you think or say?(I think we can rule out the medium tied up in the chair. Unless he is a SPIRIT(Trickery??!!))(Maybe they have tamed MICE,etc!)Not impossible, but close to it?! SPIRITS could do it(and apparently do) - but then aren't they forbidden??!! Could The Medium,etc. PAY big enough??!! Chris Angel?? ?? Vic.William1812thomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09171088730714397341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post-83958834110852616022012-07-21T21:19:06.233-07:002012-07-21T21:19:06.233-07:00I was in attendance at the first David Thompson s...I was in attendance at the first David Thompson seance on February 9th 2012 in Corona, near LA. I was the male independent checker, and patted Thompson down, and witnessed his being tied into the chair. I'm not qualified to judge whether or not a skilled escape artist could get out of the chair or not. But It sure looked very secure. I've been studying the afterlife over thirty years, and have had readings with mental mediums that yielded ironclad evidence of survival. I have wanted to experience direct voice and/or mateialization mediumship for years and was not disappointed at all. If one has studied the available literature in depth, one realizes that the results in séance are totally unpredictable and highly dependent on proper conditions. What struck me and made me think the phenomena were rel was not the trumpet or the large hand of William, (that touched my head and tapped me on the left shoulder three times), but the fact that a voice would be speaking in front of one sitter, and the be in front of another instantly. I don't care how softly someone can walk, whether barefoot, in tennis shoes, or on tip toes, if Thompson was walking that fast from sitter to sitter, we would have heard footsteps. Also, I was not at the second seance that Brian Hurst was at when Leslie Flint came through, but I attended a small circle at Brian's home on April 26, 2012, when I and 8 other people received solid evidencial communications. Days before the circle at Brian's home, I had specifically requested that someone communicate with me if they were aware that I would be sitting with Mr. Hurst, and they were inclined to come and communicate. I had never met Brian Hurst before, but did know of his association with Leslie Flint. Brian Hurst knew nothing about me or my family. The peron I invited to communicate with me is someone Imhad never met before as well. He was my Mom's brother who was in the U.S. Infantry and died fighting in Germany 5 months after D- Day. Yet, 67 years later, he came through without a doubt. I have spoken with Dr. Vandersande personally about the Thompson seances, and like him I am confident we all experienced real spirit materialization. For those cynics and hardcore skeptics I would say this. Although I am convinced, I cannot say for a certainty that David Thompson is for real. But I can say with certainty that Brian Hurst is. And Hurst has assured me that Lelie flint appeared to him during a Tompson seance. That is good enough for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post-11677980094611291182012-04-13T11:57:53.956-07:002012-04-13T11:57:53.956-07:00It is surprising to me that a person would accept ...It is surprising to me that a person would accept as of proof of survival channeled information, OBEs, many of which are likely lucid dreams and ADC which are generally considered spontaneous and therefore subject to often encountered errors in perception by witness, while discounting the often objective evidence of darkroom séances. As a longtime researcher of transcommunication phenomena which includes Instrumental TransCommunication (ITC), I have become increasingly aware of how observer errors associated with the involvement of human perception confuse what people believe is truth.<br /><br />Because of how easily anything reported by a person can be biased by cultural conditioning, expectation and outright perceptual confusion, I have found it most reasonable to look for objective forms of these phenomena. Absent convincing objective evidence, it is best to adopt an altitude of suspended judgement; in effect, be a good witness by not believing or disbelieving without good reason. If convincing objective evidence comes a long, then make a decision; if not, then remain undecided. In questions of survival, the stakes are too high to simply believe or reject.<br /><br />My wife, Lisa, and I have sat with David on several occasions, and this year, our church hosted David Thompson and Christine Morgan right after their LA visit. I sat in two séances, and in the second, his Timothy or is the child entity responsible for managing the energy, came to each sitter and showed an about 6 inch-square, glowing plaque which was partially occluded by three of his little fingers. I had seen this several times before, and as before, I had to stay in my "suspended judgement" mode. But then Timothy did something new. He came around to each sitter and held one or two of the sitter's fingers with his tiny hands. His hands were warm, baby soft and the distance between knuckles were certainly the size of a very small child. Even the angle from which he reached for our fingers was consistent with a small, short child. There was no one in the room who could have replicated the sensation. We were all holding hands, and Timothy took first my left hand and then my right with out a fumble. <br /><br />There are good reasons for the darkness. Sitters are warned, and if they do not like it, they are asked not to participate. Virtually everything David does and has done to him for séances is designed to help the sitter trust that he is not faking. I accept that some people will still judge the results based on their personal standard of ability and reject the reality of the phenomena, but if there is one thing that occurs which can be considered convincing, then it is incumbent on the sitter to at the very least maintain an attitude of suspended judgement.<br /><br />I would like to add that most physical mediums, especially David, risks everything to serve us. Certainly, the small fee they charge does not compensate for resources they spend. If I were David, you would be taking out a second mortgage on your house to sit with me. ;-) As a mental medium, I have enough performance anxiety as it is without wondering if someone is Mr. or Ms. Anonymous. Have the courage of your convictions. We will be more comfortable serving if we understand your reservation. Also, speaking for yourself might make for deeper thought before discounting those who serve you.Tom Butlerhttp://ethericstudies.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post-10157075811547957062012-03-20T15:17:18.776-07:002012-03-20T15:17:18.776-07:00The best response I can give is a link to this wee...The best response I can give is a link to this week’s blog by Michael Tymn about this series of séances and skeptical opinions regarding the mediumship. Mike, who I consider one of our best experts on spiritualist history and phenomena, compares mediums with baseball players and his analysis is excellent. Check it out at –http://whitecrowbooks.com/michaeltymn/entry/was_d._d._home_like_babe_ruth_david_thompson_like_nick_swisher/ <br />The only thing I’d add concerns the evidence sitters get in these physical mediumship circles. The conditions and phenomena are one thing; the proof of the pudding is really in the messages sitters receive. If the possibility of fraud has been ruled out, then do sitters hear messages that convince them their loved ones have communicated? The communication is what counts most – physical phenomena are just the frosting on the cake. Lastly, I must repeat that the purpose of this blog is not to debate skeptics but, rather, to provide information. Constructive comments are welcome and “anonymous” above has expressed opinions that are common but I will resist being drawn into any debate. Instead, I refer everyone to the extensive literature that is available and encourage the curious to see for themselves by being involved in good spiritualist work.David H. Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08103428561618712158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post-16712106340249269182012-03-16T14:06:05.405-07:002012-03-16T14:06:05.405-07:00Thank you for your response, David.
However, ther...Thank you for your response, David.<br /><br />However, there are still way too many things with the descriptions of these seances/ demonstrations/ performances that still very problematic for me.<br /><br />Off the top of my head:<br /><br />1. Again, the requirement of absolute darkness. These demonstrations will never gain any credibility as long as that is still a requirement. Credibility is further ruined when even the use of passive night-vision goggles is forbidden.<br /><br />2. Everyone is patted down, ostensibly to remove any light sources (so as not to damage the "ectoplasm" and the medium, according to the claims), but also because - as I've heard - the electromagnetics somehow interfere with the mediumship. *Yet*, David Thompson has an electronic device play music during his performances. Obviously such a device would contains some metal and would be emitting EMF.<br /><br />3. The playing of music at the "transitions" of the demonstrations. Sorry, that sounds way too suspicious to me. To me, it sounds like it's being used to cover up the sounds of David returning to his seat with the help of his accomplices, and whatnot.<br /><br />4. Why weren't those sticky glow strips - that are on the trumpet and sticks - place on David's forehead and arms and so forth? If they're allowed in the room - and clearly they're not affecting the spirits coming through - then there's no valid reason for David to object to placing the strips on his own person.<br /><br />There's a bunch of things, but I'll also just say:<br /><br />5. Given the descriptions of these events - I'm talking about the actual descriptions from the people who were there - I am left thoroughly underwhelmed. It all sounds corny, hokey and not at all the way in my opinion that a spirit interested in demonstrating the continuity of life would behave. (And what's the use of David ending up in the center of the floor with his sweater on backwards? To me it's just showmanship.)<br /><br />...<br /><br />For me, the real evidence of the "afterlife" lies in NDE and ADC and DBV research, as well as with OBEs (out-of-body experiences). <br /><br />I am very open about the idea of *some* of our great texts in the spirit literature being truly "channeled" (my favorite book might just be _Testimony of Light_), but mediumship in all its forms seems to be so non-evidential to the critical thinker. And this physical mediumship might just be the worst.<br /><br />For what it's worth, I spent the weekend surrounded by people who, by and large, believe in all this stuff. I saw demonstrations of trance mediumship, trance channeling and psychic mediumship -- and I was just so completely and thoroughly underwhelmed. To me, it was so clear and transparent what the "mediums" were doing. Yet all around me, people - mostly bereaved parents desperate for confirmation - were buying into it and exclaiming "Yes!" and crying and whatnot.<br /><br />I was saddened by it all. "Where's the critical thinking?" I kept asking myself.<br /><br />Again, I'm not a debunker. I've had experiences. I am *jussssst* about 100% convinced of the continuity of consciousness (I actually don't even bother to try to explain away my experiences - I can't!). Yet, mediumship seems like total bunk to me. Sorry.<br /><br />I hope I'm not offending anyone.<br /><br />(I don't want to put my name here because some will recognize me. I'd email you privately though.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post-23958548698388698552012-03-14T07:49:59.118-07:002012-03-14T07:49:59.118-07:00Anyone who has ever sat regularly in a spiritualis...Anyone who has ever sat regularly in a spiritualist circle knows that the sitters do not control the conditions or outcome – they simply conform to the conditions that seem to work best and allow spirit to manifest whatever is possible. Things as commonplace as negative emotions or thoughts can adversely affect the manifestations and for materializations or other phenomena involving ectoplasm white light is almost always a “no-no.” There is nothing 19th century about it – that’s just the way things are! Materializations are extremely rare and those mediums who have been used for materializations in white light can be counted on one’s fingers. So, sitters take precautions to prevent fraud and spirit follows through with manifestations that can be evaluated as evidential. This happened in the Thompson séances as a careful reading of Dr. Vandersande’s report shows.David H. Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08103428561618712158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3733858696820155774.post-312827115129962862012-03-13T10:03:53.981-07:002012-03-13T10:03:53.981-07:00Where is the critical thinking?
"Spirits&quo...Where is the critical thinking?<br /><br />"Spirits" (our deceased loved one and friends) do not need absolute darkness to materialize.<br /><br />There are countless accounts of daytime apparitions in full light.<br /><br />I am very much on the side of those who know (not "believe", but *know*) there is an "afterlife", but I can't help but be monumentally skeptical of these "physical mediumship" demonstrations with their extremely tight rules and guidelines (often contradictory, if you think about it) that take place under the protection of complete darkness.<br /><br />And all that "floating trumpet" business - that's sooo 1800s........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com